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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10543
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Posted - 2012.06.24 15:34:00 -
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My dear friend,
I believe this incident is just further proof that the pursuit of wealth, or greed if you prefer, is a greater force than you admit.
Do keep in touch. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10543
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Posted - 2012.06.24 17:26:00 -
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Jade ConstantineGÇö
If you and yours wish to fight the Right-Honourable GoonSwarm Federation of Space Planets in a CONCORD-sanctioned war in High-Security space, then why don't you and your coalition members simply join into a single capsuleer alliance? Doing so would allow you to pay a greatly reduced war fee.
On the other hand, if you wish to actually wage a meaningful war against the Right-Honourable GoonSwarm Federation of Space Planets, and by extension the Clusterfuck Coalition of Space Friends, then why don't you simply get a bunch of people in fleet and make your way towards our Sovereignty claims? I promise you, should your force make a direct attack against any of our Sovereignty infrastructure, the blind eyes presently paying you little mind would suddenly open, and you would be given opportunity to participate in as grand a campaign as your wallet, and your morale, could fund.
I would be the first to congratulate you on any victory you gain against our Sovereignty.
Loving Regards, Lyris GÖÑ Nairn Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10543
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Posted - 2012.06.24 17:48:00 -
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That was an awful lot of words to say "no". Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.24 17:56:00 -
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I wasn't aware we were having one, Ms. Constantine. At best, we talked past each other; at worst, we blared our own brands of propaganda at onlookers; and, the truth doubtlessly lies in the middle. I see no reason not to be civil, even if our discourse is not in the context of a formal debate. Do you not agree? Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10543
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Posted - 2012.06.24 18:10:00 -
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Back on topic!
Meradeth, I believe you misunderstand the situation.
The Right-Honourable GoonSwarm Federation of Space Planets actually enriched the militia forces by purchasing items from the quartermasters with loyalty points and InterStellar Kredits. The massive fortunes that were made by certain capsuleers of the GoonWaffe Corporation came from other capsuleers who bought those goods from said GoonWaffe Corporation pilots. What exactly is it that has been done wrong here? Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10545
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Posted - 2012.06.24 18:23:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:I see no reason not to be civil, even if our discourse is not in the context of a formal debate. Do you not agree? Sometimes you seem to forget that I am terrorist. Given the opportunity I would happily put a burst of flechette-rounds through your face and leave your bloody corpse as warning to tyrants who underestimate the will to murder in the human condition. You embody everything I despise. Its probably fortunate your cowardice keeps you a very long way from the places I make my home or you'd face the mockery of your leader on the lonely flight back to 0.0 in your capsule. Civility has no virtue uncoupled from any notion of self respect. And you seem to have forgotten that you address Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com, the intrepid Sky Captain of Your Heart, Space Friend to All, and Goodposter Extraordinaire of the Right-Honourable GoonSwarm Federation of Space Planets. I will gladly present you the opportunity match your actions to your words, and I shall handily defeat you in space just as surely as you will make a grandiose post claiming to have won despite losing. For that is the type of creatures we each are, Ms. Constantine: I am eager to shoot things, and you are eager to talk about yourself.
Name the terms of engagement. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10545
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Posted - 2012.06.24 18:40:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Present yourself bound and blindfolded (preferably drugged) on the concourse of Kourmonen II - Moon 2 - X-Sense Chemical Refiney around 2am this evening.
I stopped reading after the first sentence, for fear that I might intrude upon a private fantasy better suited to La Maison. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10545
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:30:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Alright you two. This conversation is best left to other cesspools ((forums)), where it has already been tiredly debated for the past month. We don't need it here in another context.
In short, get back on topic. I took Ms. Constantine's silence as a sure sign that she'd taken her ball and gone home.
So far as I can see, that particular branch of the conversation has been pruned. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10545
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:31:00 -
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snake driver wrote: I understand that you are here for propaganda purposes
Then you misunderstand me entirely. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10545
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:36:00 -
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Merdaneth wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:The Right-Honourable GoonSwarm Federation of Space Planets actually enriched the militia forces by purchasing items from the quartermasters with loyalty points and InterStellar Kredits. The massive fortunes that were made by certain capsuleers of the GoonWaffe Corporation came from other capsuleers who bought those goods from said GoonWaffe Corporation pilots. What exactly is it that has been done wrong here? Ms. Nairn, please do not insult my intelligence nor your own. You are perfectly aware of the concept of opportunity cost. These goods could have been sold by the Republic to capsuleers for trillions of isk extra profit too. The Republic offers them at a discount for people who show loyalty to their aims, in hopes that the good purchased with these discounts will be used to further the goals of the Republic. I'm quite sure this doesn't apply at all to the concerned capsuleers, who I firmly believe have no shred of loyalty for the Republic or the Amarr Empire. I have a concept of opportunity cost, this is true; however, I also have a detached view of what happened.
You speak of the "goals of the Republic" which should have been advanced. They were. If you check the maps, you will notice that the TLF gained significantly entrenched positions as a result of the efforts taken by GoonWaffe Corporation pilots. That the efforts were taken in the pursuit of personal greed rather than out of patriotic duty to the Republic is no more a valid accusation against the GoonWaffe Corporation pilots responsible than it is against any civilian weapons manufacturer, any freelance mercenary enlisted to the cause, or any turn-coat lured by promises of a better life. If your offense is drawn from the motivations of the people involved, then that is an entirely separate argument. You cannot win an argument against the results of actions, since those actions greatly favoured the Republic cause insomuch as the TLF enjoyed massive gains without precedent. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10546
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:43:00 -
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I suppose we're both lucky that I'm not here to entertain you. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10546
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Posted - 2012.06.25 06:28:00 -
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Yes, it truly is a shame that people are able to profit by the stupidity of others. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10546
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:05:00 -
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No but you see GOONS ARE BAD because Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10546
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:09:00 -
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Admiral Blake, you inspire me. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10547
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:49:00 -
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No, Ms. Constantine, you've got it all wrong.
The goons are bad, because Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10547
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:10:00 -
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Thanks, space friend! Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10549
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Posted - 2012.06.25 16:36:00 -
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Peach it, Brother space friend! Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10549
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Posted - 2012.06.26 06:52:00 -
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I've never found generalizations helpful. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10571
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:17:00 -
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If you believe me a blatant archetype of so many generalizations, then I think you are forming that opinion based on assumptions rather than the entire lack of interaction you've had with me. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
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